Q:If modern life is like a dream, then what is real? And if you have a bad dream, how do you get rid of it?
Sri Sri:You know, first question is what you should be having. I would want you to have that question. I dont take away good questions from you. These good questions have something that helps you to go deeper within yourself, ponder more about it, huh?
Q:How does somebody get closer to the spiritual, I think that is what you really get by not letting anything stress you out. I am trying not to control everything because by trying to control everything, you are exercising violence. And comment on how to help people who are doing it on a spiritual level.
Sri Sri:Spiritual level is just recognizing there is life everywhere, there is spirit everywhere. Its not being inactive – one has to be active, one has to do whatever is needed whenever its needed, If you are to get mad, you have to get mad. I say you shouldn’t be upset at all.
Its not possible in life for everybody not to get upset at all, If you have broader vision and deep intuition inside, its ok; but to be able to manage the situation is what you need to rely upon. And I dont see a division between This is spiritual, This is material. The finest aspect of matter is spirit. The gross aspect of spirit is matter, like body and mind.
Though the eyes see, it’s not the eyes that see! They are the instruments through which the mind sees. The mind is the spirit, part of the spirit. The whole world is a combination of spirit and matter, so I dont see them as separating events. To me spiritual practices are not something that is different from you being spirited and being happy and compassionate and being in love.
Amazement is a way of prayer. When you are amused, looking at the cosmos. Wow, how many planets are there? How many stars are there? How big this universe is? See how the consciousness expands, this itself is a meditation. I guess you are all in NASA here; you all must be in meditation all the time, because you have the awareness seeing life in a bigger context, seeing the glory of the universe.
The ancient thought is that the dancer and the dance, the creation and the creator, are not separated. The creator and the creation are one and the same. The creation is formed out of the creator, like dance comes out of the dancer. So I usually say 3 Cs we must have, you should see three Cs: have cosmology, commitment, and compassion. These 3 things make life beautiful. What do you say? Correct?
Q: You talked about our minds being fields that go beyond our bodies. But in science, fields interact in different ways; they can interact constructively or destructively. Would you talk about how our minds affect each other?
Sri Sri: It does; you know, emotions are more powerful than thoughts. Thats why you see in a group of children, if one child starts crying, every other child starts crying. If one child gets mad, the other children too get that. Havent we noticed this? You know school teachers know really well, these experiences. Similarly, supposedly in a room where a few people were arguing and fighting or angry at each other, and then they leave the room; when others just enter, for no reason, they start feeling those emotions – restlessness, anger, distress. So feel harmonious and let harmony spread also, catch us all. But it appears that anger catches much faster.
Q:This is sort of a paradox in my mind. Science is very objective and systematic. In a sense, its intentionally devoid of any subjectivity or any emotion.But there can be a real joy. See when scientists come up and talk about their work.They really get excited in it and really enjoying – even in one sense its cut and dry and free of any subjectivity. So there seems to be a paradox, this great desire to do things objectively and systematically, but a great joy in doing so. It seems to be a paradox in the mind that would attract the whole concept of science.
Sri Sri: Yes. A human life is a paradox. Its a mixture of opposites. Emotions refine our attention, our awareness. There are certain emotions which can really define, that can take us very deep, and make our consciousness really sharp. Certainly other emotions, which we call negative can make us really thick and draw, insensitive. You know when someone is very quiet, their mind is very sharp, and very much able to observe better, the same mind when its disturbed, when there is sadness, is unable to listen completely.
So, different emotions have got different roles to play, in the awareness level of our system. Now, definitely science is logic and understanding; emotions are a barrier there. But for intuition and creativity, you need another set of emotions, refined emotions, which triggers those aspects in it. So I dont see they are contrary to each other; though they are complementary, they are opposite in nature. Yet they are complementary to each other.
I would also like to say about the Indian astrology, one of the astronomies, one of the most very highly developed, but most ignored subject, the Vedic astrology. It was so many years ago, they discovered that Jupiter has twelve moons, thousands of years ago without any telescope or without any instrument.So there was perhaps some intuitive level of understanding – such exact calculations of how much it takes for Saturn to circle the Sun, all those things. Its amazing. One thing is that we need more research in it. One more aspect is to say perhaps, there is always an amount of saying, this is so. Not saying this is like this is for all times.